Family Z
Czinka
Czinka Panna
Hungarian Roma — Kingdom of Hungary, eighteenth century
Style: Hungarian Romani music / Cigányzene
Czinka Panna. An early named woman of the professional Hungarian Romani orchestra. MEK (Magyar életrajzi lexikon) gives Sajógömör, 1711, and 1772 for her death, with a question mark.
MEK: violinist; father also a musician; taught violin in Rozsnyó under the patron Lányi János. In 1730 she married a double-bassist. With him and two musician brothers-in-law, one of the popular bands of her time. No authentic work survives. The famous Czinka-nóta is nineteenth-century. So are the tunes Fáy and Káldy issued under her name. The Rákóczi March is an early nineteenth-century Hungarian instrumental piece, not hers.
Sárosi, Gypsy Music (Corvina, 1978), p. 71, via Hooker/RomArchive, calls her group “the earliest known ensemble using the instrumentation of the ‘classical’ Hungarian Gypsy band (violin, kontra, cimbalom, bass).” He regards her as the first Hungarian Gypsy primás in the modern sense. That is Sárosi’s claim, not a parish register.
Before the café Lakatos families, a named Romani orchestra already stood in the Kingdom of Hungary. Later stories (pipe, Amati, men’s clothes, a band founded in 1728, Rákóczi as employer, Bihari’s grandmother) are not in MEK or Sárosi. Rákóczi as employer is chronologically impossible: she was born in 1711, the year of Majtény.
Czinka Panna, Cinka (Sajógömör, 1711 – ? , 1772 ? ): cigányzenész. Atyja is zenész volt. Zenére pártfogója, Lányi János földbirtokos taníttatta Rozsnyón. 1730-ban férjhez ment egy nagybőgőshöz, vele és két zenész sógorával hozta létre korának egyik legnépszerűbb cigánybandáját. Hiteles műve nem maradt fenn. A híres ~-nóta kétségtelenül 19. sz.-i alkotás, úgyszintén mindazok a dallamok, amelyeket Fáy István és Káldy Gyula az ő neve alatt adtak közre. Ugyanez áll a Rákóczi-indulóra is, amely ugyancsak nem ~ műve, hanem a 19. sz. elejének reprezentáns m. hangszeres darabja.
Czinka Panna, Cinka (Sajógömör, 1711 – ?, 1772?): gypsy musician. Her father was also a musician. Her patron, the landowner Lányi János, had her taught violin in Rozsnyó. In 1730 she married a double-bassist; with him and two musician brothers-in-law she formed one of the most popular gypsy bands of her time. No authentic work survives. The famous Czinka-nóta is certainly a nineteenth-century piece, as are the tunes Fáy István and Káldy Gyula issued under her name. The same holds for the Rákóczi March, which is not her work but a representative Hungarian instrumental piece of the early nineteenth century.
Lineage
Birth and death on a vertical line — generation by generation. Places are listed where we could find them.
Generation 1
Czinka Panna
Violin · 1711–1772 (?)
Born 1711 · Sajógömör — Died 1772 (?)
Violin · 1711–1772 (?) · MEK. Primás and “classical” Hungarian Gypsy-band instrumentation: Sárosi, 1978.
Orchestra years
When the band was founded, when it split, when a new generation took the stand.
1711–72 (?)
New orchestra
An early named woman of the professional Hungarian Romani orchestra
Czinka Panna’s orchestra
MEK: Romani violinist; one of the popular bands of her time, Kingdom of Hungary. Sárosi: “the first Hungarian Gypsy primás in the modern sense”; earliest known “classical” Hungarian Gypsy-band instrumentation (violin, kontra, cimbalom, bass) — before the café dynasties.
Neighbours
Same country or city, but a different way of playing.
- Veres (Sárközi) — Hungarian Roma → Rotterdam / The Hague
- Lakatos — Hungarian Roma — Budapest (and Belgium, for a time)
- Sárközi / Sárközy — Hungarian Roma — Budapest
- Kalyi Jag — Hungarian Roma — Nagyecsed / Budapest, from 1978
- Járóka — Hungarian Roma — Kisvárda / Budapest
- Boross — Hungarian Roma — Budapest
- Danyi — Hungarian Roma — Budapest
- Lendvai Csócsi — Hungarian Roma — Ménfőcsanak / Budapest